Season 5 Episode 2: Leading During “The Great Resignation”

Season 5 Episode 2: The Great Resignation. Image of a boy who fell down in the snow and is waving a white flag signifying his epic defeat when playing in the snow.
Season 5 Episode 2: The Great Resignation.

Employees have been resigning at a record pace this year and studies suggest more is coming. What types of leaders and cultures are people looking for and how can we build more meaningful work cultures? Culture is your competitive advantage.

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1:47 – Jason introduces Season 5 episode 2 of the podcast, The Great Resignation. Welcome back to the podcast on corporate culture and leadership and thank you for listening. We engage thought leaders like CEOs, CFOs, managers, VPs, directors, and more for this podcast. We wish to create content that engages your mind and heart and allows you to step back and think and add some positivity to your life. We deep dive into today’s topic.

3:05 – We can’t control everything but what we can control is our response. Still a lot of work to do but wanted to remind the audience what is within our control is the temperature we create in the organizations and teams we work with. If you have a suggestion, please send it to

4:00 – Please leave a review for the podcast It really helps the podcast to spread these messages out into the world. Please share this podcast with your organization, on your team, or in your life to help spread these messages. Thank you!

6:44 – Part II of the series Navigating “the future of work” as leaders are managing the transition “back to work” in a physical space and alongside virtual work. Listen to Part II and the Future of Work from the last episode. This episode is about the big shift and The Great Resignation and how do we lead during these times?

9 out of 10 workers would take a pay cut if they worked in a more meaningful culture

9:12 – Jason talks about the “future of work” & the importance of culture in the workplace. Going over some key statistics that shape the current culture we face in our work environments.

14:03 – 4 million people quit their jobs in April of 2021 and 3.6 million in May, that’s 7.6 million people in just those 2 months according to the US Labor Department. Studies also show that 41% of the workforce is considering leaving their employers this year. The war for talent is on. Leadership is important especially now and Jason dives into this topic.

18:16 – Jason shares 4 quick keys that leaders are following right now during this big shift.

  1. Trust. We have to build trust with each other. Listen to Trust the Process episode.
  2. Transparency. This is essential to stay connected during this time. How employees fit in and building trust is so important
  3. Build & show empathy. Show empathy with your teams and be able to sit with them to make a connection to the fourth key.
  4. See values coming to life in action. They are not just words but actions that leaders and teams actually do every day.

Studies show that companies that that proactively shape their culture are between 2-5x more likely to hit targets, delight customers, and engage & retain their own employees.

24:30 – The best leaders are building relationships and trust and transparency and aligning ourselves to put action into practice. There is also a return on investment. We should have greater engaged human beings and teams. Also, the studies show that companies that do that proactively shape the culture are between 2-5 times more likely to hit targets, delight customers, and engage & retain their own employees.

27:16 – Jason talks about how 58% of performance is tied directly to emotional intelligence. No matter what the task is, it comes back to their own personal and social awareness and what is the response they give to it.

Questions to Ponder

  1. What are you doing to build trust in those authentic relationships with people?
  2. Is it transparent? Are you sharing the good, the challenges you are facing?
  3. Are you showing empathy?
  4. Are you creating a participatory environment?

Remember, the best leaders, teams, & cultures stimulate progress by recalibrating their thermostat together.

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Conversations and micro-thoughts to engage your mind and heart.

A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today’s distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it’s easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families, or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker, and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, is the host of The Thermostat, a podcast journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision, and values.