Season 8 Episode 5: The Chains of Habit

Season 8 Episode 5: The Chains of Habit. Image of hands in chains
Season 8 Episode 5: The Chains of Habit.

The habits we form individually, and collectively as teams, can help keep us tethered and aligned for the future vision we aim to create, or the bad habits we form can get in our way and chain us down. Can you identify the habits at play in your operations?

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Jason introduces Season 8 episode 5 of the podcast, The Chains of Habit. Welcome back to the podcast on corporate culture and leadership and thank you for listening. We engage thought leaders like CEOs, CFOs, managers, VPs, directors, and more for this podcast. We wish to create content that engages your mind and heart and allows you to step back and think and add some positivity to your life. We deep dive into today’s topic.

We can’t control everything but what we can control is our response. Still a lot of work to do but wanted to remind the audience what is within our control is the temperature we create in the organizations and teams we work with.

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“We are the architects of our habits and, thus, the sculptors of our destiny.”

The Thermostat with Jason V Barger, Season 8 Episode 5

In the latest episode of *The Thermostat Podcast* with Jason V Barger, we delve into the transformative power of habits within the realms of personal leadership, corporate culture, and our daily lives. Jason highlights the pivotal role habits play in shaping our leadership styles and the culture of the organizations we are part of. This discussion is not only a reflection on the habits that propel us towards our goals but also a critical look at those that may be hindering our progress.


 The Chains That Bind: Habits According to Warren Buffett

A significant part of the episode is dedicated to Warren Buffett’s insightful perspective on habits, encapsulated in his profound observation: “The chains of habit are too light to be felt until they are too heavy to be broken.” Barger explores this concept, emphasizing how habits, both good and bad, gradually form chains that can either anchor us to our aspirations or bind us to our limitations.

 The Essence of Corporate Culture and Leadership

Jason argues that the cornerstone of exceptional leadership and thriving corporate cultures lies in the ability to step back, reflect, and recalibrate our habits. He persuasively outlines how our daily routines and practices are instrumental in either fostering a positive environment or perpetuating a negative one. Through engaging narratives and practical advice, Jason demonstrates how leaders can cultivate habits that reinforce their vision and mission, thereby setting a temperature that aligns with their corporate culture aspirations.

Episode Highlights

– 4 laws of habit forming, James clear, 6A’s of leading change (listen here)
1. Make obvious – name what we want to change
2. Make Attractive – we have to want to change, is this something we truly want to change? Are we compelled?
3. Make easy – don’t overthink it. What’s the next step?
4. Make it satisfying – solving a problem, making something easier, stimulating progress, helping you get better at something.

Key timestamps that capture the essence of the episode include:

  • 00:21 – Mention of Warren Buffett’s perspective on habits and their impact.
  • 01:08 – Jason welcomes listeners to the podcast and emphasizes the importance of stepping back to reflect for leaders and teams.
  • 02:05 – The significance of authentic leadership and creating compelling cultures as differentiators in organizations.
  • 03:15 – Discussion on habits, differentiating between good and not-so-good habits, and their effect on our lives and leadership.
  • 03:57 – Introduction to Warren Buffett’s quote on the chains of habit and its relevance to both positive and negative habits.
  • 07:40 – Resumption of the topic on habits, emphasizing the dual nature of habits as both supportive and restrictive.
  • 09:01 – Delving into Warren Buffett’s concept of the chains of habit and its implications for personal and organizational growth.
  • 12:04 – Discussion with James Clear on Atomic Habits, system thinking in habit formation, and the importance of creating supportive habit systems.
  • 14:19 – Reference to previous podcast episodes on related topics such as personal biorhythms (listen here) and the significance of aligning habits with personal energy levels.
  • 17:28 – The concept of “what we allow lingers and what we teach triggers“(listen here) in the context of culture shaping and habits within teams. Having awareness is important.
  • 20:35 – Introduction to James Clear’s four laws of habit forming as a framework for creating and sustaining positive habits.
  • 24:29 – Jason poses reflective questions to the audience to encourage personal and team introspection on habits.
  • 26:51 – Conclusion of the episode, emphasizing the role of leaders and teams as thermostats in setting the culture and continuously working on cultural fitness.

Questions to Ponder

  1. What daily habits do you have that are either positively or negatively impacting your path?
  2. What conversations within your team could help teach new habits?
  3. How can you make a new habit you wish to form obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying?

This episode serves as a reminder that leadership is not about ignoring difficulties but about facing them with honesty, optimism, and collaborative effort. It’s a must-listen for anyone looking to understand the true essence of positive leadership and how to apply it in their personal and professional lives.

Remember, the future of leadership is not just about individuals; it’s about collective action and shared vision. Let’s be the thermostats that set the temperature for a thriving culture.

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Parts of this article were created using Ai and edited by humans.

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Conversations and micro-thoughts to engage your mind and heart.

A thermostat is proactive. It sets the temperature in a room. Controls the temperature. Regulates the temperature. But in today’s distracted, fast-paced and digital world, it’s easy for individuals and organizations to act more like thermometers, slipping into reactionary thinking, becoming scattered and inconsistent. The most compelling leaders, teams, organizations, families, or collection of humans of any kind operate in thermostat mode. They calibrate their mind and heart to set the temperature for the vision and culture they want to create. Jason Barger, globally celebrated author, keynote speaker, and founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting, is the host of The Thermostat, a podcast journey to discover authentic leadership, create compelling cultures and find clarity of mission, vision, and values.